Beer Advocate vs. RateBeer: A Look at the Numbers (Part 1)

May 27th, 2008 beersage Posted in Beer and Tech 13 Comments »

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A quick and dirty web traffic comparison of the two most beloved beer sites on the internet. Keep in mind that the tools discussed here can be used to learn more about your other favorite sites. If any of this appears confusing, just skip down to the summary at the bottom. Here’s a quick profile of Beer Advocate and RateBeer:

Beer Advocate:

Site started: May 31, 2000
Founded by: Todd and Jason Alstrom, Cambridge, MA
Beers in database: 40,687
Reviews in database: 606,663

Ratebeer:

Site started: March 8, 2000
Founded by: Bill Buchanan
Beers in database: 81,005
Reviews in database: 1,664,306

There are three sites that come to mind when discussing traffic rankings (for me, at least): 1) Alexa, 2) Compete, and 3) Quantcast. I won’t go into it too much here but for legitimate reasons, there is controversy surrounding internet stats because they’re inherently unreliable. But for purposes of our comparison, the traffic sites work OK. Without further ado, let’s look at Alexa, perhaps the most well-known web traffic stats service:

Beer Advocate:
3 month avg. ranking: 23,776

Ratebeer:
3 month avg. ranking: 32,011

Alexa.com - Beer Advocate vs Ratebeer

Both sites appear to be generally trending upward though Beer Advocate has separated itself in the past few months.

Beer Advocate:
Monthly rank: 15,166
Monthly people count: 124,393

Ratebeer:
Monthly rank: 24,017
Monthly people count: 77,765

Note that ‘people count’ probably refers to unique IP addresses. So the actual number of people using the site is probably much less than these numbers indicate when factoring home AND work usage. The graph below paints a different story than Alexa does, showing that traffic has plateaued for both sites though Beer Advocate is still showing more activity here.

Beer Advocate:
Rank: 23,370

Ratebeer:
Rank: 37,238

The image below shows daily unique visits since Quantcast doesn’t show traffic graphs. It appears that these visits are actually dropping though traffic appears to be level or at a slight incline according to Alexa and Compete.

If you’re not snoring away already, let’s look at one more thing at Quantcast: demographics. More specifically, what makes up the monthly traffic at the two sites? Below is a chart showing that very few users make up the lion’s share of traffic at Ratebeer.com. If we take 3% of the unique visits per month, we come to 1600 unique (IP addresses). Say that a little more than 1/3 of them access it from either multiple computers or at work, etc. So we have 1000 actual people accounting for 67% of the total visits per month or about 250,000.

That is extreme. Beer Advocate is not quite as extreme but still more drastic than the norm. Type in Dead.net, the official site for the Grateful Dead (another cult following similar in nature to beer enthusiasts), into Quantcast stats and you won’t find anything near the level of loyalty of these two sites. That’s great if you’re looking to sell something (like a premium membership or a magazine). Whether it’s good for site growth is another discussion.

There is a ton more that can be discussed looking deeper into Quantcast’s demographics including income, ethnicity, etc. but we’ll stop there and summarize what we’ve learned.

    Takeaways:

  • 1. Beer Advocate is seeing stronger traffic numbers than Ratebeer.
  • 2. Ratebeer appears to be more community-centric in that it has a deeper interaction between its core users.
  • 3. Unique visits appear to be dropping though traffic is steady if not slightly on the rise.
  • If anything, these figures raise more questions. Why would unique uses be slipping? Where else might the regular and fringe users be going? There are a number of possibilities. Without giving it much thought, I might hypothesize that it boils down to homebrewing. The niche is growing and homebrewing boards like homebrewtalk.com and northernbrewer.com boast over 20,000 and 11,000 board members, respectively. As commercial beers become more expensive and more people decide to experiment with or are exposed to homebrewing, one would think that trend will continue. That begs the question: how viable will the two sites be if their core users leave the commercial niche and flock to the homebrewing niche?

    What do you think? Post a comment or bring this discussion to one of the boards!

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    Atlanta Georgia bar offers “table taps,” beer taps at your table

    March 27th, 2008 beersage Posted in Beer and Tech No Comments »

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    (Atlanta, GA) - A bar in Georgia has what are called “table taps.” Each table has two taps from which patrons can pour their own beer. Unfortunately, the most craft-like options include Guinness and Newcastle at the moment. It’s a pretty neat concept, though. Just imagine having a virtually endless flow of a beer like Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale at your fingertips while at the bar. You can read more about it at Macon.com. Or, check out the official site at the Table Tap.

    3/30 Update: Yahoo News! is hosting a video that show how these taps work. Fox News: Self-Service?

    And another one from US News and World Report on March 24

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